[Music] Welcome to the Auto Accident Attorneys podcast brought to you by the AutoAccenter Attorneys Group, where our motto is simple. We take care of you. While we're known for helping people navigate the aftermath of auto accidents, this podcast is about so much more. And especially today, we're recording a special episode on Father's Day. So, I've got my sister, attorney Holly. Hello. Hello. And we have a very special guest today with us. Not an attorney, but he created two attorneys. Mr. Jim, Jam Salimi, Mr. Jim is crazy. Jimmy Jim Jim is more attorneys. Jimmy boy. I I was actually just thinking I was like, "Oh, we should have gotten him the handle at Mr. Jim on Instagram." It's not too late, Dad. Yes. Good morning. Good morning. Welcome. Happy Father's Day to you, too. I appreciate it. Thank you. Well, since it's Father's Day, I figured I don't know if you've listened to our podcast. I know mom does for sure. I I have a few times. Yes, you have listened to the podcast. you know that not only do we discuss things regarding auto accidents, but we also try to give our listeners information or advice or what's called dad vice. We just put the letter D in front of advice. So, it's advice the dad would give. And I've never received as much dad vice in my entire life than my own dad on random car rides. So, I figured today he could give our listeners some dad advice. Are you ready for that? Uh, yes. Would you? Yes, I am. Yes. Let's go. He's like, you didn't prepare me for that. Yeah. Let's just start with this first. Can I offer you something? We're I forgot our listeners probably by now know that we're Persian. I didn't anything. Can I get you something to drink? No. Thank you so much. But, you know, please ask me a, you know, simple question. A simple question. Simple questions. All right. Well, while we're recording this podcast today on Father's Day, it's a Sunday in June. Yes. There is a current conflict going on from the country uh involving the country that you I'm from are from and came to the States to raise two attorneys. So I guess let me let's start with something simple and easy. What do you think about the Iran Israel conflict? Uh boy, it's not good at all. That's not is a war and they don't um tar off any shittin or inner cakes as a war. They killing each other in the war. That's what meant. Yeah. Uh, Persian they say, you know, in the Jang they don't jang. How do you say it in Farsy? Can you translate that for us? In war, you're not offering candies and cookies. Yeah. They don't spread candy in war. Yes. That's that's a pretty Persian sentence if I've ever heard one. Actually, the entire time that you were grow uh raising us in this country, if I think back, the country is about as old as I am. All right. I think so. Yes. So, the entirety of the country while you're raising two kids here, I think for that 40 some odd years, they've always been at war, right? You mean in in Iran, right? Or after revolution. Right after revolution, we had the eight years war with with Iraq and with Saddam. And then that is stopped and then we had a lot of propaganda you know against uh Israel and they try to destroy Iranian nuclear plan uh so they try to resist uh for many years and now you know end up with to having a war to with each other. Holly I'm just this is a really intense way to start this podcast. Well you asked for something easy. Yeah, I figured I'd lob it up. And I think that's the part of this thing from a softball. I personally would love to hear Oh, we've heard it before, but for the listener is dad's story from the beginning. How you came to America, how you got started. Yeah. When uh we came to America, you know, your mom was uh what 26 27 years old. I was about 30 years old. Uh it it was it wasn't easy but uh we decided we determined to come to America to go to school, get educated and after finish school go back to Iran. And I did. I I promised to myself to my family that after I finish school here, which I studied mechanical engineering at, you know, University of Tennessee, you guys know. and then decided to go back to Iran and prepared everything and I took Ali, my son with me. Attorney Ali. Yeah, attorney Ali. And but mom, my wife Azie, she has stayed here. She said, "Okay, well, what year did you leave Iraq?" When when you and mom decided to come to the States, what year was it? That was 1977. Exactly. October 1977, we came to America. that time uh we had kingdom of Palavi dynasty Muhammad Pali. So it was a good relation between America and Iran. So it was very easy you know to uh get a student visa and I got my uh I20 form from North Carolina. I had a neighbor uh he was Iranian. His wife was American and she was from North Carolina. So they visiting every year, every summer in Iran. From Iran to North Carolina, they go to North Carolina because of his wife every year. And I asked him if you go there, could you uh get me a I20 form uh to go to America as a student? Why don't you just get it off the internet? Well, at that time, you know, didn't have internet. Not not even the cell phone. There wasn't any cell phone. And so you had an in Iran you had a neighbor who was married to an he was an Iranian man married to an American woman but they lived in Iran. They lived in Iran with his wife which was she was American from North Carolina and they would visit North Carolina every year. Every year in the summertime when kids are off school in the summertime they go to America to North Carolina. So I had a communication with him. He was a engineer also working for the Iranian national Iranian oil company and I said you know next time you go in there can you get me I20 form? He did. What's the I20 form and how did you know what it was? I knew you know how to uh get that student visa. That was part of the uh beginning of you know you have to have a permission you have to have acceptance uh from you know some college or university from uh from America and that I20 was acceptance to one of the college in North Carolina. He got it for me and he came back and he said that was $20. So I I I go to agencies got $20 and gave it to him. I thanked them. So that was the beginning of uh packing and being ready uh to move to America as a student. And how did you the logistics of leaving Iran and coming to America? Did you go by boat, plane? No. Well, you know, uh me mom, my wife is from Kman is another uh providence of Iran. Uh so, but embassy of US embassy was in Thran. When I was married, I was living in Kash. So, we go together after I got my it go to Iran. I had all the paperwork ready, go to American embassy and give me a a student visa. I think at that time they called it F1 visa and so they gave me permission to come to America but u when my wife's parents especially father he found out he said he start crying he said I'm not going to see my daughter anymore you're taking her away from here and I said well you never going to come back after I finish school that was a lie it was a lie And also, well, it wasn't a lie at the time. No, it just ended up that way. No, it ended up that way. But what happened later on, you know, the war changed, everything changed. We had the revolution, you know, American embassy was the people in American embassy was taken hostage. So the it ruined relation between Iran and United State. Then we had a war with Iraq. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Bash again. You got the I20 form and you applied for an F1 visa to come to the States and it was October of 1977 that you finally came to the States, right? That's correct. How how did you come over? I already know the the way. I'm trying to lead you. No, I forgot you asked me with the boat. No, there was a airline agencies, you know, coming from Tehran directly to New York to Chicago to Philadelphia. And at that time I don't know how much the ticket was but because my father was in the military and uh I had the privilege of getting a great discount on ticket coming to America because at that time the plane come I think they call it 303 airplane they got a it was a cargo plane and the two stories the bottom story was the delivering a lot of equipment from America. The top story was nice first class chairs but they didn't have a host or flight attendant just a uh just a pilot and co-pilot and I I think they had a few people that work in their plane but they didn't save any food you had to have your own food because it was a military plane because it was a military plane but if at that time if ticket for regular ticket regular people coming from Iran to America was $1,000. My ticket was $50 because I was the military family member. This is your father. A was part of the Iranian the Shaw's the Sha military. Uh which division? Air Force army. Uh he was in the army. He's in the army. Yeah, he was in the army and he was a colonel in the army but he was retired but still using the privilege of the being served in the military. So as the child of an ar I mean you're also in the military but I'm assuming you didn't have the same status that he did. It was because of him that you were able to access Yeah. the US Air Force. Yes, but the military I was in that was a mandatory two years serving the military conscription for every every Iranian male uh to serve two years mandatory in the military. Mine wasn't considered as a military personal just I see you just did what your obligation you fulfilled your obligation obligation. So he got you all was able to get you onto a US Air Force. No, I mean Iranian Air Force plane. Oh, it was an Iranian Air Force plane. Iranian Air Force. So, Iranian pilots. Iranian pilots. Oh, okay. I didn't know. I This entire time I thought there was US Air Force. No, Iranian Air Force. So, they flew out of Tehran. Out of Thran coming directly to military base in Philadelphia. Oh. And when it was landed and they had to call for the person on earth to come in, open the gate, open the interviewing offices or uh the salon or whatever the office. So everything was closed down. That was the only planes landed there at that time and that was us. So they come in and they check our visas and uh we just catch the bus from there, you know, go different place. That's amazing. How many people were on that plane? About was it empty? I would say about about 100 people. But I have to mention that when they took off from Thran, they landed in Spain, Madrid, Spain. Mhm. And pilot says, you know, we're going to spend the night here and we are going to this hotel. If you want to go to this hotel, you can, you know, just go to that hotel. So we catch the bus or taxi we go to the to that hotel. So every 100 passengers all military members family we all go to that hotel and some of them they went to the different hotel pilot and co-pilot they stayed with us in that same hotel you know in Spain like French they have a baguette bread and next morning you know it was everything was new that was our first time me and my wife your mom first time coming out of Iran to different countries so it was very interesting to everything smelled different everything look different so next day I woke up I said let me go and catch a baguette you know we have a breakfast together I come in come out and I see the pilot with a short he's looking for the baguette too I'm getting emotional I'm already crying well I mean you've always loved carbs so I can see that oh if I could get that baguette now I can smell it as you're describing it. They come back in and the next day, I mean, I think that that day and some of the Iranian uh passengers, you know, I mean, they were like um two star, three star, one star officers. They just uh stayed in Madrid and a few of them they said, "We're going to go have a vacation here in Madrid. We're going to go see the um what what they call that running of the bulls. The bulls. What they call it? The gobazi. The matador. Matador. Yeah. Bull fighting. Yeah. Bull fight. So they went there and I think out of uh 100 people and some of them they stayed in Europe. Out of that 100 people about 30 people left in the airplane. So almost everybody stayed in Europe. Most of them. Yes. Yeah. 70 almost 60 70 people stayed in Europe from there going different you know country in Europe no disrespect to Philly but now that you've been in America for a while you can see people are comparing they're like uh Madrid or Philly like I think I'll stay in Madrid. All right so then you spend the night in Madrid. Um you lose a good amount of people there. But I say you lose. They meant to. They they purposely flew there to go to Europe, but they vacationing. They were vacationing. It was just cheap. Your flight was cheap. Probably hotel was cheap for them at that time. But your intent was always to come to you had gotten your student visa. You and mom were mom also got a student visa. No, she was just accompanying me to as as a spouse. Okay. And you guys land in Philadelphia at a Air Force US Air Force base. US Air Force base. And that was the only plane in the in the Air Force at that time. Very Was it like in the middle of the night? It was afternoon I believe around 4 5:00 October uh season, fall season in Philadelphia. Very private and exclusive flight, you know. And could the people there uh I'm assuming they didn't speak Farsy Americans? Yeah. No, they were just immigration officers with the air force uniforms. I see. Not regular immigration officers of United States. They were immigration officers for Air Force. Did you speak English? Uh I had a few words I learned but uh one of the word I remember was because everywhere I go I just keep using because on sir because trying to get a direction you call him sir because [Laughter] you guys then um do you spend the night in Philly or do you go straight to Tennessee? We knew where they're going to land in Philadelphia. So we got a ticket from Philadelphia to North Carolina from Iran. Mhm. That was a different ticket, different price. Wasn't the military airline? Airline. I see. So you flew from Philadelphia. Philly to North Carolina. To North Carolina. And but you know when we caught the plane uh in our road there was a guy, you know, sitting next to us. And I I explained to him you know that's why we are here in English. And and as I said and I just a few words like he just kept saying because but in his mind he was explaining everything because because because so you know we didn't have even a hotel and he says uh why don't I'm going to this hotel holiday in they have a shuttle they pick you up from the airport and they take you to it was a big help because we didn't know we didn't know where to stay and but I had a I20 20 from the from the college and the college was sacred heart college. It was a non uh college n uh for the for the n it was a Catholic non school but they had a English school there too. Uh so we had I20 from that unit that college. Shout out Sacred Heart. Sacred Yeah. Sacred Heart College. We thought well we are going to the dormitories. Oh I didn't think about what we're gonna say at night you know I just I thought you know it's probably as easy as you run but anyway this guy helped me helped us to catch the shuttle go to holiday in and then he took took us to the front and he explained that where we are from that's what we are here for. So they got a nice room for us. So we spend the night there until next day got the taxi go to the sacred art college and that Sunday knocked over Sunday. What is this like the first 72 hours of your trip to America? Let's see. Uh one day in Madrid, Spain and probably two days that's a third day second day maybe in the States. in the states going now from there we had to go to the to the college uh where our dormatory was you know I was confidence that when we going to the dormatory we have a place we have food and all that so I wasn't worried about it so one thing I'm wondering right now I'm about to fly to London but I've got like three different MXs I got use my phone to access ATMs when you came Yeah that's what I was going to It's just cash. That's all you have. You don't have there's no bank accounts here. You can't access bank accounts in Iran. Just cash in your pocket. We sold everything in Iran. All belonging, car, you know, carpet, things like that. I think converted to like $7,000. I wrapped it with a uh plastic and put it in my uh socks and my shoes. So, wrapped it there, too. So, nobody going to steal it. At the first that you know in America a lot of uh people maybe you know they come and rob you. So that's where I hide it uh our cash no credit card no checks and everywhere we go we just pull out the tunis out of there and pay. And you had converted into US dollars before you left Iran. Before we left Iran. And at the time the idea was this money that you had saran wrapped this is supposed to get you through what? Through all like four years of college. No. Uh, I calculated for about for 6 months. Oh, okay. So, you had enough for 6 months. The idea was that you would earn money somehow when you were here. Well, I'm Yeah. Well, I plan to come here and uh go to get a job somewhere. So I I said you know I'm going for six months and I convince my wife if you are not s if you are not going to cover the tuition and experiences if you don't have a money at least 6 months we learn English so we can come back and beside the first job uh work at the English teacher for the second job back in Iran back in Iran if we are not succeeded go to school. So when does school start? This is October of 1977. When do you actually enroll and start school? Well, the first three months, you know, we went to the that non school, I mean, Sacred Heart, you know, every that was Sunday everywhere closed, you know, big huge gates. Uh, rang and knocked the door. One of the nine opened the door and I said, "This is my I20 from here." Said, "Yeah, come on in." Were they expecting you or did Iranians just knock on the door? they expecting but they didn't they didn't know definite date I see but they on their list well we were the student they supposed to provide the room uh because it was October and school was closed for that season for that month so when we go into dormito we took us she took us to the hallway the where the door rooms were located and then she said you know whatever room you want so we picked the first room but no other students were there that we were the only one in the dark hallway in the non- studentent college and at night we just locked the door lock the windows so nobody going to come in but gradually a student uh came back to school after vacation after holidays and then next day uh that same nun she came and she took us to uh uh for a tour around the college where the student center is, where the cafeteria is, where um all these places are. So, and cafeteria, the food was ready. It was great. So, that was our I can't get over his memory. And it's funny, I'm watching you. I feel like you're going back into the moment. Your eyes like you're feeling going down that hallway, the smell of the cafeteria. Oh, I remember exactly after like 50 years. That's good. Hopefully our brains retain that kind of information after 50 years. I doubt it. Was it in Salsbury, North Carolina? It was in Let me see. I just Googled Sacred Heart. There's a Sacred Heart University, but that's in Connecticut. No, there Sacred Heart College. Sacred Heart Catholic School. Let me Belmont, North Carolina. In Belmont. Belmont near Charlotte. between Gastonia and Charlotte. Oh, there it is. Sacred Heart Convent School in Belmont, North Carolina. Oh, yeah. That's it. So, now you're there and so you have you go to Sacred Heart in order to learn English and they had a English group called ELS. ESL. English as a second language. Yes. ESL. ESL. Uh we have that in all the public schools now. You are there for three months. For three months and then you go to Tennessee. My wife's mom's cousins they were in uh in Tennessee. Mom's your wife's mom's cousin. No. It was her cousin. Oh. Oh. Oh. Mom's cousin. Mom's cousin. Your your mom's cousin. My wife. Your mom. Zia. Okay. A cousin. He is at the time working at the Tennessee Valley Authority. He he was I had two people I knew. One of them was living in New York, which was my cousin Parvis. And the other person was Zia. That's the only people we knew. Parvis and Zia were both in the States. Industry. Paris was in New York and Zia was in Chhatingo, Tennessee. I had another friend living in California. So I had a choice, you know, to which to go. But Tennessee was close to North Carolina. We didn't have to drive far. And at that time we were not thinking of flying. Yeah. Just wherever we go. I My first cars was a Vega. V E G A red Vega. And it has a it had a good swording uh bump uh exhaust and wouldn't make big huge noise. And you bought that in North Carolina. I bought in North Carolina. What is that? A Chevy? Uh I think Chevy Vega. Yeah. I don't think they're around anymore. This is the Chevy Vega. Yeah. Yeah. What color was yours? Red. A red Chevy Vega. That's amazing. going. So this is what you and mom drove from Belmont, North Carolina to Tennessee. They the friend Who was the friend in California that you knew? Faraj Oh, in San Francisco. San Francisco. We could have We could have been West Coast kids. Yeah. Yeah. But shout out Georgia. We love Georgia. It's great. It's fantastic. So you go to Tennessee. This is And now this is beginning of 1978. 1977 October there. Yeah. beginning of 1978. So I got another acceptance or I not I20 just acceptance from uh Chhattano State Community College that was a two years college I got to go there and study you know just take my elective courses and that's when you started in 1978 1978. Talk us a little bit through that. So you you're going to I'm assuming by now you're starting to run out of money. Well, we still have we tried you know that's just three months. So we were in the dormatory and part of it was already paid and the other part but we still have some uh money left so we can uh go to uh Chattanooga you know rent apartment and uh just but in the meanwhile I was looking for when I was in North Carolina we had a neighbor the guy was from Hong Kong and his wife was American and he was the one took us at that time regardless of your status in in America, you can get if you have a visa and passport, Iranian passport, you can get the driver's license and social security card at that time as long as you're you're valid somehow. You could you don't need to be a permanent resident or a citizen. No, it's not anymore. But at that time, but this guy helped us. He took us to the social security office. We got our social security card. Did you go to the driver's license? We got our driver's license. So now you could then that's how you're able to get a car. You're able to get insurance. You can pull because you have the documentation. And this is all under here because you need this documentation because you're going to spend a year or two here as a student. Exactly. Exact. where I had I need a driver's license and this guy says uh he was Kmart manager and I said you know do you have any opening? He said, "Yeah, I have a uh some job, you know, from at night that you just come in and there's a machine you buff the floor because I didn't know English. That was a great job, you know, for me." But he says, "You have to have a social security number for that's why he took it." But I didn't end up to working for Kmart, but he offered me. Because of that, you you knew what was required in order you knew you were going to have to work at some point in time. and then you found out in order to work you needed a social security number so that you could receive payments. I just want to acknowledge that every step of the way he got there because obviously he put himself out there but people helped and it's like he came to America and they had such an incredible community of people that were willing to show him the ropes to advise him as to like what forms you should get what you need to do next. And I think that's really important especially in this climate when you think about what's going on with you know immigration and everything. It's people forget everybody's become super individualistic. But in 1977, 1978, he had neighbors from all over helping him. Everywhere he went, somebody guided him. Exactly. To to make sure that he got through the process and did things right. And I think that's I just want to point that out. That's pretty incredible that there were people like that. Even even when I was going to buy a car, I didn't know what American car is good. But and one guy told me just go sit in the car. If you're comfortable with it, buy it. He didn't mention about the transmission, about the tire, about the motor. If you're comfortable, so when we were going around uh you know, we didn't have a car just walking, you know, from here to there. Belmont was very a small uh place, a small community. And I noticed one car. It says for sale. So we go and talk to him and sit in the car. I noticed I'm comfortable. I said I'm buying it. He's like, "This Vega feels nice. This feels me." As soon as I started, you know, I mean, I think that was a huge yard. He has a big house. I think was his son's car. And as soon as I started, car just shaking the whole building. He's like, "This is it. And I got it. But my neighbor that the person from the Hong Kong who had a was manager came this is not a good car because neighbor doesn't like it and when in the morning you start the car going to school. And you know what's ironic is now their neighbor son has a car that makes a really loud noise when you turn it on. This is karma. Sounds like freedom. That's what it sounds like. Sounds like America. You've got your car. You get an apartment. You get a job eventually so that you can sustain the lifestyle through school cuz you'd only come in for 6 months of money. You got six months of savings. So, you you're going to school. I'm I'm looking for like that next plot twist. What happens then? And uh you have a kid that's born. Not yet. Okay. Not yet. We we went to Chattanooga. So we ded I was at the me and we both bought in North Carolina that college uh place for about 3 months and then we moved to Chattanga, Tennessee. We rent the apartment. I got signed up with the Chattanooga State Community College. Took some elective courses but meanwhile more importantly it was just get a job everywhere I go. This is not important. And the school is not important. I need to get a job. And but Zia was there. She knew Ali Kabir was there too. Well, since the listeners don't know Ali Kabir, this is another one of mom's cousins. Mom's cousin. So mom had two cousins here. And Zia one day Zia says, "You want a job? I have a friend that manages or one of the one of the guy working at the factory. I can recommend that you can get a job." So Zia was the first person to uh ask that guy to accept me to let me let me work there. So what I did I started working for that called um US stove company and they make a stove for different Kmart Sears different places or make a refrigerator you know heavy heavy duty stuff. Yeah. So that heavy equipment moving heavy equipment. My first job was there, but the income was good. You know, they're paying good, you know, to the workers. And are you going to school at the same time? I was going to school at the same time. So, you take classes during the day and move heavy equipment at night? At night, I think it was starting at 4:00 in the afternoon till 12:00 in the 12:00 midnight. The job was So, how was school? I assume the job was just the job. You're just doing labor. You've learned some English, but you're probably not communicating very much with people you work with. Not much. On campus, I assume there's other Iranian students because there's always like foreign nationals in on every campus. So, you've got a community there. But how are the classes? You have favorite classes. Are you good at it? Are you bad at it? The first classes I took was mathematics. I was good at it. So while I'm doing the mathematics or I knew everything in the mathematics especially uh uh like math one or two was so easy for me but it gave me opportunity while I'm attending a school taking these courses legally as a student in America. So I can stay here with the 40 hours full-time student. I can learn English too, you know, because in the mathematic class I'm paying attention to the conversation more than the solving the the equations. So the math curriculum is really just a cover that's easy for you because you you know it. Oh, you're you're spending your time listening to people speak so you can pick up the language. Pick up the language. was young and then you know afternoon uh in the factory it was just so company I communicate the people talk to different people so I just every day I pick up a few vocabularies and then you know read the book at night and look at the dictionary convers and write it down in forune in the book on top of every vocabulary that's how I learned it and do you have any between school and work and a wife. Do are you doing anything else? Are you involved in any clubs, activities, sports? Not at all. Not at all. Just uh leaving home early morning before 7 with that Vega thing. Then I changed it to different car. Uh the next one was a Ford Mustang. That was a nice I'm learning a lot about dad just through his cars that he chose when he came to America. No, the Ford Mustang Mustang was a great car. If I kept it, it was nice. At that time it was 19 It was 1978, but the Mustang was 1977. Just Wow. A few months old. Look like brand new. I got it for $3,000. Still have some saving, you know, despite that money not, you know, very uh spending in the budget. He's got a budget for 6 months, but he's like, "Look at this thing." You know, mom, that's where it started. Mom was like, "God damn and nothing's changed." It seems like this is now your first year of school, right? First year, first a few month of university. No, of college. Of college. Community college. Yeah. And then what do you ever transfer to a university or not? Yeah. And then, you know, I was there. So I took I think 6 months and my goal was while I'm while I'm uh having a job having a income and the income was good at that factory I was working income was great you know our apartment rent nice neighborhood you know middle class neighborhood in Chadot Tennessee Daytona Boulevard and uh we had a nice bedroom apartment for $150 a a But my income was about $1,100 a month at that time. Uh because it was a factory job and they pay a lot. And I remember, you know, they had a they would call it lunch break between 8 to 8:30. And I was thinking since I'm learning English, I said lunch, this is dinner. Lunch is supposed to be at 12:00. Anyway, you tell he went and told your manager like, "You're using the wrong word here." So, I go to my car and that 30 minutes, uh, mom was, you know, in daytime making me a jelly sandwich. So, I take sandwiches with me for lunch and dinner. And um one one evening I was sitting in the I still have a vega and I sitting in the vega you know reading my book while eating because I try to take advantage of that 30 minutes time so and somebody knocking the window that was the dark at night and then I looked at this uh I forgot his name Charles or something and he's the one of the guy was working with me in the line in the factory he goes I thought when he goes like this pointing his two fingers in in his toward his mouth I thought he's asking for the food. I said okay you want said no no no no no. And then cigarette and I I wasn't smoking cigarette at that time. You were not a smoker. No at that time. Oh did you know that? I did I didn't smoke at that time. Damn Charles lying. Then I've seen pictures of him at like 18 with a cigarette in his van in Iran. But when I came here, I couldn't afford it to buy a cigarette. That's why Mustang money. And then he keep asking, "Well, I didn't know." I said, "I don't have a cigarette." But anyway, he left. The next night he came again because you know, we were talking together in inside the at the job and he come knock the door and he said, "Come on." And I said what come in I followed him because I I I knew as a friend you know you were I trusted him. So I go I see a few other guys. I was young at that time 30 years old and those guys were like 25 30 33 years old the same age. And so we going to the car and two people sitting in the front and then him and the other guys sitting in the back and they put them in the middle in the back seat. try sitting between these two guys and the two at the front they started smoking joints they hot box that and they they giving to me try it I said okay barely talk to them try to explain things like that you know and they're asking you know and Elvis Pie was just passed away and they were from Tennessee and they were worried and they're sad because of Elvis Presley and was I was mad at is the show doing this you know we have the J so I'm talking about the politics they talk about the entertainment so different subject so you know but they would understand me even with a few uh English words and then when I got a few years smoke I got high and then I start talking but I hear them and Charles says he's high now he's hot Oh, that all night I was talking this far because you know I've been fluent in far easy. So I go inside and then you know the charge you know I don't know J James what they call me said he's high and everybody come and look at me and I was thinking God you know what should I do but I heard in Iran long time ago if something you have to take a bother and eat butter and you know you uh so I said I hope the tour I get up and go stop and go get I did I go to a stop and go to uh block of butter and start eating it to get better. But it didn't help. I go home. All right, kids. So, if you're listening, if you get too stoned, butter is not going to help. Dad vice. Yeah, there's the dad vice. We got to it. Yeah, it was scary. And I go home and uh normally when I go home I open the book you know read the what the homeworks I could at that time as I said 30 years I have a lot of energy a lot of willingness you know to to work hard to study hard uh so I go home I said you know I'm going to bed next day walk away thanks God you know never ever ever again will do it that was hear that kids don't do drugs. Yeah, it's Father's Day, but you know when your granddaughters hear this episode, they will take the advice to stay away from joints instead of butter. It was bad experience, but he's war flashbacks right now. Okay, so we are at um we're at an hour, but I don't want to end this, so we're going to split this up into a couple episodes. Uh we're probably going to break now. Uh tune in for the next episode to see what happens with Attorney Holly and attorney Ali's dad, Jamshed. Tune in next time to see what happens. Happy Father's Day, Bojan. Happy Father's Day to you. Thank you so much. Kiss your hands.